RE: Jeffrey Simpson's Electoral injustice: Cities are getting the shaft
Statistics Canada, and the census, should not be the basis of seat distributions. For starters, census figures are heavily manipulated (they count a million fewer people than the population estimates they give, which they consider more accurate). Secondly, they have an assumption that non-citizen residents will become citizens in their forecasting of future electors..This drives up the forecasted number of voters in BC and Ontario, both of which have much higher census counts than the registered voter counts, from Elections Canada, would indicate.
Between 2004 and 2008, Alberta's population growth, and its growth in 'electors' (registered voters) were both roughly 12%. In Ontario the voters did grow quicker than the population (6.5 to 4) as they did in BC (9% to 4%). Those results give some credibility to Statistic Canada's assumptions, but not much. Alberta voters are increasing quicker, probably due to interprovincial migration.
I think in general people believe in one citizen, one vote - the census is not a good source of counting citizens, and the statistics Canada modeling of future voter patterns based on it certainly looks flawed to me. Ontario's economic performance has trailed Canada's for the past 7 years, and has become a net loser in interprovincial migration. Current StatsCan pop estimates have Ontario and Quebec growing at about 2% since 2008 (AB at 3.6% and BC at 3.4%).
The baseline for proportional representation should be Quebec - the smaller provinces are set at their guaranteed levels, and Quebec is guaranteed 75 seats. … so let's look at 2008 seats per elected voter, keeping in mind both Alberta and BC are now growing faster than Ontario
2004 | 2008 | |||||
Province | Electors | Seats | Average | Electors | Seats | Average |
Alberta |
2,171,584
|
28
|
77,557
|
2,433,695
|
28
|
86,918
|
British Columbia |
2,750,577
|
36
|
76,405
|
2,996,864
|
36
|
83,246
|
Manitoba |
841,061
|
14
|
60,076
|
835,401
|
14
|
59,672
|
New Brunswick |
597,440
|
10
|
59,744
|
590,984
|
10
|
59,098
|
Newfoundland and Labrador |
405,032
|
7
|
57,862
|
410,411
|
7
|
58,630
|
Northwest Territories |
28,619
|
1
|
28,619
|
28,787
|
1
|
28,787
|
Nova Scotia |
706,932
|
11
|
64,267
|
727,875
|
11
|
66,170
|
Nunavut |
17,041
|
1
|
17,041
|
17,089
|
1
|
17,089
|
Ontario |
8,294,928
|
106
|
78,254
|
8,834,987
|
106
|
83,349
|
Prince Edward Island |
109,031
|
4
|
27,258
|
108,211
|
4
|
27,053
|
Quebec |
5,800,109
|
75
|
77,335
|
5,954,763
|
75
|
79,397
|
Saskatchewan |
723,922
|
14
|
51,709
|
715,291
|
14
|
51,092
|
Yukon |
20,345
|
1
|
20,345
|
23,281
|
1
|
23,281
|
Grand Total |
22,466,621
|
308
|
72,944
|
23,677,639
|
308
|
76,811
|
In 2008 Albertans were the most poorly represented citizens, with one seat for each 86918 electors (not voters), Ontario at 83349, BC at 83246 also exceeded Quebec's 79397 electors/seat.
Adding the 2006 proposal for 12 seats, deemed unacceptable by Premier McGuinty, Ontario's figure dropped down to 74873 electors/seat. That was always going to be a non-starter in Quebec. If Quebec is the yardstick, then 5 seats in Ontario, 3 in Alberta and 2 in BC would be the correct figures.
Putting Ontario to 18 was simply appeasing the thankless Premier of Ontario – and it made sense only in terms of predicting BC and Ontario to have quicker voter growth through non-citizen residents becoming citizens.
In order to set Quebec as the baseline Quebec would need another 10 seats, in addition to Ontario's 18, BC's 7 and Alberta would also need to be bumped up to 7. If we were to do that, the big 4 would have roughly 70000 electors/seat, while the remainder of the country would have about 55000/seat.
Maybe that is desirable, but I doubt it. Ontario 5 seats, BC and Alberta 2-3 each. That would bring them close to Quebec's figures, and be easily justified.
Regardless, the next time you are offered 12 seats, just say thank you and take them.
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Another way of looking at it might be more helpful. The following list, working directly from Elections Canada 2008 data, shows the smallest riding in Alberta by number of electors, plus the ridings in Ontario with fewer electors than that - note much of the Ontario list is very, very, urban:
Electoral District Name/Nom de circonscription | Population | Electors/�lecteurs |
Kenora | 64291 | 42794 |
Algoma--Manitoulin--Kapuskasing | 77961 | 59595 |
York West/York-Ouest | 103948 | 59674 |
Timmins--James Bay/Timmins--Baie James | 80791 | 59876 |
Thunder Bay--Superior North/Thunder Bay--Superior-Nord | 82589 | 62338 |
Thunder Bay--Rainy River | 85153 | 63128 |
Etobicoke North/Etobicoke-Nord | 108501 | 63700 |
Davenport | 104615 | 66189 |
Scarborough--Guildwood | 108813 | 67124 |
Scarborough Southwest/Scarborough-Sud-Ouest | 102196 | 67988 |
York South--Weston/York-Sud--Weston | 114458 | 68978 |
Sault Ste. Marie | 89028 | 69272 |
Parry Sound--Muskoka | 90281 | 69514 |
Nipissing--Timiskaming | 90963 | 70178 |
Scarborough Centre/Scarborough-Centre | 108010 | 71094 |
Nickel Belt | 89377 | 71107 |
Don Valley East/Don Valley-Est | 109640 | 71366 |
Fort McMurray--Athabasca | 100805 | 71621 |
This is my argument - the representation criteria should be eligible voters. The population argument is quite different. Here's the riding with the least population in Alberta, and the ridings in Ontario with less population than that - note the very, very, urban ridings are not on this list:
Electoral District Name/Nom de circonscription | Population | Electors/�lecteurs |
Kenora | 64291 | 42794 |
Algoma--Manitoulin--Kapuskasing | 77961 | 59595 |
Timmins--James Bay/Timmins--Baie James | 80791 | 59876 |
Thunder Bay--Superior North/Thunder Bay--Superior-Nord | 82589 | 62338 |
Thunder Bay--Rainy River | 85153 | 63128 |
Sault Ste. Marie | 89028 | 69272 |
Parry Sound--Muskoka | 90281 | 69514 |
Nipissing--Timiskaming | 90963 | 70178 |
Nickel Belt | 89377 | 71107 |
Sudbury | 92161 | 74228 |
Leeds--Grenville | 99206 | 75075 |
Renfrew--Nipissing--Pembroke | 98803 | 75223 |
Edmonton--Strathcona | 99267 | 75254 |
The argument for Ontario having 18 seats is a bad one from many perspectives, but the fundamental premise is representation by population, regardless of citizenship.
Voting can be seen as an obligation of the citizen, or as a benefit of citizenship. That vote should not be diluted through statistical trickery to include non-citizens.
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